Whats It Take To Get Someone To Post??

[nukelaloosh]

Whats it take to get yous guys to want to get on here and talk about whats going on in the league? Hey, I dont get a lot of league info.. or else Id be on here talkin.. But come one.... WOOO

[chiefwahoo19]

Yea dude I agree with you. This place is like a graveyard. Would be more entertaining if everybody chimed in on the season. Go Jays!

[chiefwahoo19]

Whats the story on all these grand slams at Ramsey? Cant you guys mix in a couple solo and two run shots?

[metleague08]

What does it take to get people to talk on here? Well for one, i'd say about 95% of the players in the league have no idea that this forum exists. The link to this forum on the main site is basically hidden. And even further, theres still a good amount of players who do not even check the main league website or do not know it exists.

Want that to change? How about forcing all teams to post stats after games within 48 hours. Post news feeds regarding injuries and have notes regarding important match-ups. Make this a real league with some credibility and then you'll get some people to talk.

We all know that the league has been running on empty for a few years now. And when you have teams dopping out basically every year it doesnt help the credibility(what happened to Cliffside Park) And you cant have teams like Belleville and Allendale(ridgewood) or whatever they are to be basically fielding non competitive teams that dont belong.(it's not a knock against them, they play for fun but it hurts the reputation of the league. And Teaneck which basically never had a home field(that is unacceptable if you want to be a serious league) Yes they finally got NJCU's field which is fine but will that be available anytime they need it?

Also, lets talk about umpires. There are very few who are serious about doing their job right. When an umpire comes and fans can tell he is there just for a paycheck it hurts the league. Major changes need to be made if this league wants some chatter going around.

[chiefwahoo19]

Belleville has a competitive team first off. Ask any team who has played us and the games have been competitive. I guarantee with the core we laid down this year the team will be a competitive one for years to come. We are young, and have had 3 division 1 players, two pitchers down with injuries. It takes time to build great teams, and we are just a couple pitchers/players away. I have put alot of hard work into this team, too much hard work to be called non-competitive. We have a home field anytime we want it, I update stats the night it happens, we are going to be broadcasted on the local tv station, and there is a newspaper following us weekly. We have a couple holes to fill, but once we do, our team will be top notch and I am proud of who we do have already, some of our players are definitely among the league's best. I dont leave my kids for hours at a time to "have fun." I am a serious baseball person who will have a serious career when all is said and done. Also, to rip on teams in the league you should know some of the difficulties everybody faces with putting teams out there. Dax and Jorge are good hard working guys and it is not fair to criticize their teams for things that may be out of their hands.
Lastly when you want to spread inflammatory comments, put your name on it.
Bruce Daddis
Belleville Blue Jays

[AHEARN]

Bruce...I will NEVER take you seriously if you continue to play wiffleball with those Dribnack boys! ;D

[metleague08]

Listen Bruce.. first thing is that a name does not need to go with posts to make it credible. I dont need to put a bullseye on my back. I've been in this league for years and was giving an un-biased overview. It does seem that you are putting together a good program. But you need good players to fulfill all those things. And hopefully you get them. because you're record doesnt back it up yet.

Secondly, hard work alone doesn't mean that people dont deserve criticism. Why is it just now that teaneck got a "home" field? I was looking at ways to improve the league and thankfully it seems you are doing your part. The other teams need to catch up.

[chiefwahoo19]

key word is YET. It takes time to put together an elite team. I will do so, as I will add and subtract to this years team at the end of the season to be at the top next. Important part is I fielded a good team with a hell of a nucleus, and we will be a force to be reckoned with in this year and the ones to follow. At this point our record is what it is, but it will improve. I have plans to expand our budgets and require less money for our dues. Unfortunately some of the best players out there will only play for free. Next year I will have a budget that will allow us to do so. I will continue to get the league as much positive publicity and exposure as possible. The Blue Jays do, and will belong and anyone who says we dont I plan on proving wrong.

[chiefwahoo19]

Ed, its time to let go of those feelings. Mike and Dan just told me its been sour grapes with you ever since you were picked last in the family softball game. I feel your pain, and I am here to talk if you ever need me...

[metleague08]

Yes, it does take time and i do hope you bring it all together. However, league-wise we can not continue to have teams dropping out every single season. We can not have teams with no home field or home fields that are atroscious.

And the problem i have with Allendale is that they are so quiet you barely even know they are a part of this league. They have no names to mention, never seem to make any changes and pretty much just sit there.

Improvements need to be made to: the main web site, fields, umpires and promotion of the league. I know this probably wont happen and many of you im sure are still bitter but we need Hackensack back in the league. The overall level of play in the league has improved since they left(bergen saints, JC Brewers, North Haledon,Bergen Cardinals, Ramapo Valley) can all compete and defeat them.

But somebody needs to step up and put this league in the right direction and get it off the death bed.

[AHEARN]

Jun 9, 2008 21:34:27 GMT -5 chiefwahoo19 said:

Ed, its time to let go of those feelings. Mike and Dan just told me its been sour grapes with you ever since you were picked last in the family softball game. I feel your pain, and I am here to talk if you ever need me...

That's BS...the only reason I was picked last was because I was wasted...oh yeah, and because my aunt has a nasty deuce!



FYI- there is ZERO chance Hackensack would ever think about coming back into the league. They have no reason to. They gain nothing from it.

[metleague08]

Don't you think that the league should do something to convince Hackensack to come back? I mean, wouldn't a well run league want the best possible teams representing them? The league sends 3 teams to the regionals. I dont see how Hackensack benefits any better from playing an independant schedule.

P.S.- With gas prices do you think they want to continue driving out to Long Island, CT, and other places weekly? Instead of 10-20 minute drives.

The league needs to improve itsself and this is one great way to get it done. You don't let your best team walk away and let them stay away. I dont know the behind the scenes stuff but im sure they are plenty of ways to get them back in.

[AHEARN]

There is no benefit for Hackensack to come back in the league. They play against the top teams in the tri-state area to get recognition nationally, they can move the schedule around to accomodate themselves, they get bids to regionals, they have an unlimited roster if needed. What would they gain by coming back? It was a big blow to the league when they left, but for the Troasts it was the best thing they could have done for themselves. They got tired of beating up on the bottom teams in the league, who you yourself called "non competitive". So they went out and played the Pelhams, Brooklyn's, New Rochelle's, and beat up on all of them. Why would they come back to the Majors-Met League?

The league will never be what it used to be, because guys just don't play as long as they used to. You don't see that many guys making a full time summer commitment once they get out of college anymore. Plus the cost to play is astronomical compared to what it used to be, even just a few years ago. Men's summer league baseball is struggling to survive all over the country, not just in North Jersey. Times have changed.

[metleague08]

I agree with you on some points. Hackensack wanted to prove how good they were and they have done that. They have become nationally known, but i think now is a good time for them to come back. They have seen how they fare against some of the best teams and have done well but have also fallen short each time.

Point is, they are going to get into the regionals as an independant or as a league member so what difference does it make. And as i said before, i think the overall quality is better now then it was before Hackensack left. I can see RV, Cresskill, Bergen Saints, North Haledon and perhaps with their A team the JC Brewers putting up a good fight with Hackensack and even beating them.( that list is in no particular order)

Despite what they say on their own website they are not as good as they used to be no matter what their "#1" national ranking says.

I just think its better for both sides.

[bobbyk23]

A few points:

1. It most certainly does add credibility to add your name to your post.

"hard work alone doesn't mean that people dont deserve criticism."

Wow.....you can name names.......but you won't post your own.......pretty embarassing in my opinion.

"I dont need to put a bullseye on my back."

Man up....if you don't have the sack to back up what you say, then don't say it. This is a men's league.....act like one.

According to Ahearn, you have nothing to worry about.....I don't throw hard enough anymore to do any damage.

2. "I've been in this league for years and was giving an un-biased overview."

The fact that this is your opinion of things means it is biased. You are most certainly entitled to your opinion. See # 1.

3. Unless your name is Muggeo, Livingstone, or Cifaldi, then I've been in this league much longer than you have. There is no question at all that the overall level of the league isn't what it what was. In addition to all of the points Ed Ahearn made (I can't believe he was sober long enough to make a few good points!), all of the Independant Leagues have certainly taken talent away from the league. Most of the ex-professionals who used to come back to the league now end up there.

4. Judging team's talent levels and skills 5 games in (give or take).......a little premature, don't you think?

5. Hackensack made their decision several years ago to pursue their National Championship their own way. I would have loved to have seen them do it, but unfortunately they have fallen short so far........but if we want to bring the league back to its glory, why don't we also bring back the Teaneck/Fair Lawn Merchants, the Clifton Phillies, the old Hackensack Troasts (prior to merging with the Ridgefield Park Orioles)......the Hackensack Arrows, the great North Haledon teams of the 90's..........

If you knew any of the guys on the Troasts well, you would know they aren't coming back.....and probably won't be a team in a couple of years......some of their best players are almost as old as I am now.

6. We all want to see the league flourish.......what have you done to help it along? Been to a league meeting? (hopefully you have)


For the love of the game.......

Bob Khalil # 23

Teaneck Stars (2005-present)
Bogota Bucs (2002-03)
Oakland Dodgers (1994-2001)
Fair Lawn Merchants (1997-98)
Hackensack Arrows (1989-1992)
Elmwood Park Orioles (1988)